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		<title>By: Jason Kintzler</title>
		<link>http://blog-o-blog.com/08/07/2008/the-new-ideal-newsroom-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-503</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Kintzler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 03:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the concept, it&#039;s critical we engage and use social media tools to connect the newsroom and the community.

I though I should share this related post: 
Newspapers Missing the Benefits of Social media http://tinyurl.com/6yljzn (hope you don&#039;t mind!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the concept, it&#8217;s critical we engage and use social media tools to connect the newsroom and the community.</p>
<p>I though I should share this related post:<br />
Newspapers Missing the Benefits of Social media <a href="http://tinyurl.com/6yljzn" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/6yljzn</a> (hope you don&#8217;t mind!)</p>
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		<title>By: &#8250; Daily Links 07/09/2008</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#8250; Daily Links 07/09/2008</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 23:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The new ideal newsroom: Part 2 &#124; Zac Echola [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Zac Echola</title>
		<link>http://blog-o-blog.com/08/07/2008/the-new-ideal-newsroom-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-501</link>
		<dc:creator>Zac Echola</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 22:51:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, I&#039;m only suggesting that news organizations adapt to a linked form of content creation, rather than ignore it or do it half-assed.

Secondly, does there need to be a specific role?

I&#039;m not asking to be flip. I think that the assumption that every creator fill a new and unique need is unnecessary. A Starbucks opening across the street from the local coffee shop tends to increase the awareness of both businesses and both generally see increases in sales.

The same goes for creating these types of networks. If you build a community around a topic, the net result is usually that all parties share and overlap audience. They grow together.

Sure these things tend to be self organizing, but if media businesses already ingrained in a community don&#039;t build or at least actively participate these networks, they&#039;re missing out.

Beyond that I don&#039;t know what else to say about the matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, I&#8217;m only suggesting that news organizations adapt to a linked form of content creation, rather than ignore it or do it half-assed.</p>
<p>Secondly, does there need to be a specific role?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not asking to be flip. I think that the assumption that every creator fill a new and unique need is unnecessary. A Starbucks opening across the street from the local coffee shop tends to increase the awareness of both businesses and both generally see increases in sales.</p>
<p>The same goes for creating these types of networks. If you build a community around a topic, the net result is usually that all parties share and overlap audience. They grow together.</p>
<p>Sure these things tend to be self organizing, but if media businesses already ingrained in a community don&#8217;t build or at least actively participate these networks, they&#8217;re missing out.</p>
<p>Beyond that I don&#8217;t know what else to say about the matter.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Burden</title>
		<link>http://blog-o-blog.com/08/07/2008/the-new-ideal-newsroom-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-500</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Burden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 17:26:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, but then, why do we need MSM orgs to organize this? It&#039;s self-organizing. All kinds of people blog on topics that interest them. They are already responsible for the growth and well-being of their community. Niche sites pull all that together - like editorsweblog for example for those who blog about j-stuff. What is the SPECIFIC role of and need for the MSM here?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, but then, why do we need MSM orgs to organize this? It&#8217;s self-organizing. All kinds of people blog on topics that interest them. They are already responsible for the growth and well-being of their community. Niche sites pull all that together &#8211; like editorsweblog for example for those who blog about j-stuff. What is the SPECIFIC role of and need for the MSM here?</p>
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		<title>By: Zac Echola</title>
		<link>http://blog-o-blog.com/08/07/2008/the-new-ideal-newsroom-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-499</link>
		<dc:creator>Zac Echola</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 14:53:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Suzanne - Check your Web history. Chances are you visit thousands of sites per day. Links just teleport you from one site to the next. There&#039;s hardly any bother.

I do think that editors and reporters should take ownership of their sites. They are the content creators and they should be the ones figuring out how they can get their information in front of the right people. To have marketers market the news to other sites, to me, sounds dirty.

@Tim - That&#039;s the point. Blogs, and specifically blog networks, are Web native entities. Newspaper.coms are not. Web native groups will do what works best on the Web, because that&#039;s the environment they came of age; Newspapers online have consistently tried to be just that--Newspapers online. The linked network is a better fit for the Web, I think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Suzanne &#8211; Check your Web history. Chances are you visit thousands of sites per day. Links just teleport you from one site to the next. There&#8217;s hardly any bother.</p>
<p>I do think that editors and reporters should take ownership of their sites. They are the content creators and they should be the ones figuring out how they can get their information in front of the right people. To have marketers market the news to other sites, to me, sounds dirty.</p>
<p>@Tim &#8211; That&#8217;s the point. Blogs, and specifically blog networks, are Web native entities. Newspaper.coms are not. Web native groups will do what works best on the Web, because that&#8217;s the environment they came of age; Newspapers online have consistently tried to be just that&#8211;Newspapers online. The linked network is a better fit for the Web, I think.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Burden</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Burden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 14:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You just described the blogosphere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You just described the blogosphere.</p>
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		<title>By: Suzanne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Suzanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 06:18:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like an interesting experiment. One immediate thought: Would readers really be bothered to visit yet another handful of sites or add even more RSS feeds to their already crowded reader? Say someone likes gardening and wants to get local news -- would there be a way for that user to get the info without having to visit both sites every day?

You also somewhat implied that editors would market the web sites, which should really be left up to marketing. Let the editors&#039; main job be editing.

Otherwise, I like the idea of having features carve out their niche sites, work on them full time, then monitor traffic to see what can be developed for the brand site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like an interesting experiment. One immediate thought: Would readers really be bothered to visit yet another handful of sites or add even more RSS feeds to their already crowded reader? Say someone likes gardening and wants to get local news &#8212; would there be a way for that user to get the info without having to visit both sites every day?</p>
<p>You also somewhat implied that editors would market the web sites, which should really be left up to marketing. Let the editors&#8217; main job be editing.</p>
<p>Otherwise, I like the idea of having features carve out their niche sites, work on them full time, then monitor traffic to see what can be developed for the brand site.</p>
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		<title>By: Zac Echola</title>
		<link>http://blog-o-blog.com/08/07/2008/the-new-ideal-newsroom-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-495</link>
		<dc:creator>Zac Echola</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 04:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, there&#039;s also something to be said about company wide aggregation, too.

Most of the newspaper properties in Forum Communications are in towns well under 10,000 people. But sites like &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.northlandoutdoors.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Northland Outdoors&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.northlandag.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Northland Ag&lt;/a&gt; (which aren&#039;t necessarily the best implementations of the ideas I&#039;ve outlined above, I know) work very well by benefiting the individual properties and the company as a whole.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, there&#8217;s also something to be said about company wide aggregation, too.</p>
<p>Most of the newspaper properties in Forum Communications are in towns well under 10,000 people. But sites like <a href="http://www.northlandoutdoors.com" rel="nofollow">Northland Outdoors</a> and <a href="http://www.northlandag.com" rel="nofollow">Northland Ag</a> (which aren&#8217;t necessarily the best implementations of the ideas I&#8217;ve outlined above, I know) work very well by benefiting the individual properties and the company as a whole.</p>
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		<title>By: Zac Echola</title>
		<link>http://blog-o-blog.com/08/07/2008/the-new-ideal-newsroom-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-494</link>
		<dc:creator>Zac Echola</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 03:39:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it still applies to small markets. You just have fewer areas to write about usually. One person working several beats can also maintain multiple blogs with fewer posts. That&#039;s reasonable.

The niche component may not be feasible for super small weeklies, but the blogging part certainly applies.

I&#039;m not sure there&#039;s anything the readership needs to understand, either. I think we sometimes don&#039;t give individuals enough credit. Most people can discern the differences of a blog post from a matter of fact news story. We also shouldn&#039;t expect the vast majority of people to compare notes across sites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it still applies to small markets. You just have fewer areas to write about usually. One person working several beats can also maintain multiple blogs with fewer posts. That&#8217;s reasonable.</p>
<p>The niche component may not be feasible for super small weeklies, but the blogging part certainly applies.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure there&#8217;s anything the readership needs to understand, either. I think we sometimes don&#8217;t give individuals enough credit. Most people can discern the differences of a blog post from a matter of fact news story. We also shouldn&#8217;t expect the vast majority of people to compare notes across sites.</p>
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		<title>By: WFL</title>
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		<dc:creator>WFL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 03:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting idea, but how do you apply this to small markets, and how do you coax the readership to visit (let alone understand it all)?

-WFL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting idea, but how do you apply this to small markets, and how do you coax the readership to visit (let alone understand it all)?</p>
<p>-WFL</p>
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